The old Whitehouse near Alresford Creek,in which old Granny Welham lived. This photo. must be after the railway went through to Brightlingsea in 1865. this is where we get the name of the Whitehouse beach near Alresford creek.Hi, I'm a descendant of the Welham's of Alresford. This picture is confusing me. It says it is at the Ford but is next to the railway line. Ford Lane and the Ford itself are not next to the railway line? Can anyone provide any help on this? All the early census returns give the Welhams living at versions of the same place The Copyhold, Copyhold, Copyholds and Copyhold cottage. Does anyone know where this was as I cannot find it on any map?
Thanks to Alan Hughes.
This house was on the river colne next to Alresford creek.heading towards Wivenhoe,next to the old Wivenhoe-Brightlingsea railway line .It would have looked out to the Fingringhoe nature reserve.
copywood cottage was beside the Brightlingsea railway line(Known as the Whitehouse) It once belonged to copywood farm
Thanks to Ken Newbury.
Ken Thank you so very much for your reply and the information. You have cleared up something that I have been trying to find out for years. Am so grateful to you, Regards Alan Hughs.
Thanks to Ken Newbury for more information.
Hi Ken Thank you so much for all the info provided. I am trying to find the links of Walter to my tree. I have found some info re the White House being built in about 1900 on the original Copyhold site in a book The Essex Coastline - then and now by Matthew Faulty and James Garon which is very informative about the Alresford / Wivenhoe areas. If you turn anything else up then would be very grateful. Once again thanks for everything. Regards Alan
Hi Alan.
I have traced Walter Horace Welham born 1887 at Bury St. Edmunds ,Suffolk.
He married Lilly Murriel Handley in Colchester in 1918.
Walter died at Wivennhoe in 1951.
Walter's Father was William Arthur Welham who was born in 1861at Fort St. George Madras, India.
He married Blanche Agnes Stevens and died in 1918 at Colchester.
William's Father was Walter Welham ,born 1824 at Long Melford, Suffolk, he died in 1890 at Bury St. Edmunds, Suffolk.
Walters Father was William Welham who was born in 1792 at Long Melford , He married Charlotte Ducesett in 1817 at Long Melford. He died at Woodbridge,Suffolk in 1850.
William's Father was also William who was born at Long Melford in 1735.
William's Father was also another William he was born in Long Melford in 1709 and in 1734 he married Ann Stanhope .
Hope this helps, John Admin
.Hello My mother was a Welham & also had family that lived at the white house. Stories of windows rattling as trains went by! She is 83yrs old & has v good memory for family history. I believe the David Welham mentioned was a relative on Was this a typical farm cottage of the era
Thanks Colchester gal for the information.
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Hi, I'm a descendant of the Welham's of Alresford. This picture is confusing me. It says it is at the Ford but is next to the railway line. Ford Lane and the Ford itself are not next to the railway line? Can anyone provide any help on this? All the early census returns give the Welhams living at versions of the same place The Copyhold, Copyhold, Copyholds and Copyhold cottage. Does anyone know where this was as I cannot find it on any map?
copywood cottage was beside the Brightlingsea railway line(Known as the Whitehouse) It once belonged to copywood farm
Hi Ken
Thank you so very much for your reply and the information. You have cleared up something that I have been trying to find out for years.
Am so grateful to you,
Regards
Alan
Ford lane alresford was the only way to get to copyhold farm by road behind the gravel pit across the field was the copyhold farm and the farm cotage stood further done the field (Later years called the white house)someware ive got a map with this marked on it (Ken)
A marked map would be great if you could lay your hands on it.
As a separate point, I have a fairly extensive family tree and would is there any way to be able to pinpoint which Granny Welham the note on the photo refers to and any relationship to the person who provided it. Do you know of any one that might know this information please?
Regards and thanks again for all of your kind help.
Alan Hughes
The Granny Welham i was told lived in alma street wivenhoe i dont know if it was before or after she lived in the whitehouse. how i know all this is because we used to play in the house when it was empty (that was 60 years ago )i know the fireman on the steam train that passed only about 10 feet from the house he said they used to stop the train and shovel some coal off for her.even the train driver said it was the granny welham from alma street.hope this helps with your family tree.come back if you want to know anything else i may beable to help (Ken)
By the way Alan over the wivenhoe cematary ive seen gavestones with the names of Welham on sometime ill get the names off and dates of death and see if it tyes up with anything on your family tree
Hi Alan idont know if this helps you
Walter welham Married Lily Handley
That would have been Granny Welham
One of her Daughters was Eunice Marjorie Welham (now Baker) still alive And David welham drowned Aged 17 (Boatbuilder) Died 29/07/43 Lived On the River Colne that could have been the whitehouse. i also came across Walter Welham Horice Welham died died age 63 he lived in Alma St wivenhoe This sounds like her Husband Lily Murrel Welham (Handley) is Granny Welhem. I managed to get all this from her daughter now 94 yrs old anymore i will let you know (Ken)
Walter Horice Welham died on the
14/04/1951 i forgot to put that
Walter Horice Welhem And Lily Murrel
Welham Are Burried together In plot number F178 in wivenhoe cematery
Hi Ken
Thank you so much for all the info provided.
I am trying to find the links of Walter to my tree.
I have found some info re the White House being built in about 1900 on the original Copyhold site in a book The Essex Coastline - then and now by Matthew Faulty and James Garon which is very informative about the Alresford / Wivenhoe areas.
If you turn anything else up then would be very grateful. Once again thanks for everything.
Regards
Alan
Hello
My mother was a Welham & also had family that lived at the white house. Stories of windows rattling as trains went by! She is 83yrs old & has v good memory for family history. I believe the David Welham mentioned was a relative
The'Granny Welham' on the picture was my great great grandmother.
Her great grand daughter (my mum) is still about and has a mindful of information on the family history.
PS who is colchester girl?
Walter Horace Welham was the brother of my grandfather Lancelot William Welham, he was married to Lily's sister Daisy (my grandmother). It's wonderful to have come across this post...I remember Great Aunt Lily and her little dog Pixie very well
In the 70’s, we used to walk from Cook’s shipyard down the disused railway line to “the beach” as we called it. Also went there with the Boys Brigade to earn a camping badge. The ruins of the Whitehouse were further along on the other side of the tracks from the river. Yes it looked over the nature reserve. You could walk onto where the railway bridge location that used to go across the river to Brightlingsea. I remember travelling on the train with my mum to visit her Mum who lived there.
By the way, I knew a family of Welhams who lived on the corner of Rosabelle Ave, just a few houses down from us.
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